Grandsire Doubles - a Touch

Why a Touch?

This page deals with the what and how of ringing the method but why is a Touch interesting? A plain course of Grandsire Doubles takes 30 changes. With 5 bells there are 120 possible ways in which to sequence the bells ( 5 x 4 x 3 x 2 x 1 = 120 [or 5!]). In bell ringing this is called the Extent of a given number of bells. Introducing Bobs and Singles makes it possible to cover all 120 changes.

After becoming comfortable with a plain course of Grandsire Doubles the next stage is to learn how to perform a Touch [Glossary: Touch]. Continuing on from the description of a plain course this page describes a Touch of Grandsire Doubles on 6 bells.

My only previous experience of learning a Touch was for Plain Bob Doubles for which only Bobs [Glossary: Bob] are required. For Grandsire Doubles both Bobs and Singles [Glossary: Single] are required.

Why do you need both Bobs and Singles for Grandsire Doubles when you only need Bobs for Plain Bob Doubles? Well, if you really want to know, it's complicated . . .

How to ring a Touch of Grandsire Doubles

As with a plain course of Grandsire Doubles the Tenor (bell #6) is always in 6th position and the Treble (bell #1) performs a sequence of Plain Hunts. The other four bells perform the method.

At any one point in time one bell is Plain Hunting and the other three are working. When either a Bob or a Single is called the bell that was Plain Hunting starts working and one of the other three working bells changes to Plain Hunting.

 What to do at a BobWhat to do at a Single
about to doplace at callnew work to donext piece of worknew work to donext piece of work
3rds lead 3rds (unaffected) dodge 4-5 down 2nds plain hunt
dodge 4-5 up 2nd 3rds plain hunt long 3rds dodge 4-5 down
dodge 4-5 down 4th double dodge 4-5 up 3rds double dodge 4-5 up 3rds
plain hunt 5th double dodge 4-5 down dodge 4-5 up double dodge 4-5 down dodge 4-5 up

Reminder: the Treble is in 3rd place when a Bob or a Single is called.

The following illustrates how the working bells are affected by when a Bob or a Single is called at a particular point.

Bob
5 4 3 2 1 6h
5 3 4 1 2 6b
3 5 1 4 2 6h  a pointer to this row bob 
3 1 5 2 4 6b  
1 3 5 4 2 6h  
1 5 3 2 4 6b  
5 1 3 4 2 6h  
5 3 1 2 4 6b  
3 5 2 1 4 6h  
3 2 5 4 1 6b  
Single
5 4 3 2 1 6h
5 3 4 1 2 6b
3 5 1 4 2 6h  a pointer to this row single 
3 1 5 2 4 6b  
1 3 5 4 2 6h  
1 3 5 2 4 6b  
3 1 5 4 2 6h  
3 5 1 2 4 6b  
5 3 2 1 4 6h  
5 2 3 4 1 6b  

To show the work of a particular bell choose from the following:

Other useful hints

Passing the Treble

Works just the same as it does in a Plain Course of Grandsire Doubles! For some ringers this is how they ring Grandsire, they do not seem to think about the cycle of work, they only consider what to do after they have passed the treble in a particular place.

Front or back

If you look carefully at the table showing how the working bells are affected at a call you will see that the bells in 4th and 5th place do the same thing regardless of whether the call is a Bob or a Single and that something is a double dodge (of some sort).

I believe that this is true for other variants of Grandsire such as Grandsire Triples. The more general rule would be "if your place is higher than 3rd place at a call you double dodge".

If you are in lower than 3rd place when Bob is called you make 3rds. The tricky bit is what to do next, there are two ways that I know of that tell you what to do next.

If you are in lower than 3rd place when Single is called . . .

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